Early 1920s Studebaker ?

By Bernie
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7 minute(s) of a 173 minute read

12-8-2017

Bureaucracy at its best?


One could very well ask “Why Bother?"

 

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From: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Information relating to a 1920 Studebaker car last registered in 1941 - Freedom of Information Request 2018.0542
Date: 8 December 2017 at 11:36:31 AM AEDT
To: Bernie Jacobson

Dear Mr Jacobson,
Please find attached acknowledgement letter in relation to your request. 


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From:        Bernie Jacobson
To:        [email protected]
Date:        04/12/2017 11:20 AM
Subject:        Re: Information relating to a 1920 Studebaker car last registered in 1941 

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Good Morning
Can you please charge the $28.40 to my Visa or alternatively please send me your bank details and I will transfer this amount directly to your account.
However before sending you my payment details can you assure me that you actually have some previously unavailable information for me.
I have been taught to be cautious in these matters. Having twice paid the AOMC $110 only to be told that they could tell me nothing.
If you care to discuss this personally my telephone number is 9842 5808, 

Bernard Jacobson.
On 4 Dec 2017, at 9:40 AM, [email protected] wrote: 

Dear Mr Jacobson,
I refer to your email below and advise that to provide access to this documentation a cheque of $28.40 as payment for the request is required. Please send the cheque made out to VicRoads, to Freedom of Information, 60 Denmark Street Kew Vic 3101. 

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From:        Bernie Jacobson
To:        [email protected]
Date:        29/11/2017 04:25 PM
Subject:        Information relating to a 1920 Studebaker car last registered in 1941


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Good Afternoon
I am seeking some information regarding  the history of a 1920 Studebaker car. The car has been in storage since the last registration expired in December 1941.
I understand it was originally registered in Victoria number 74593. It was subsequently re registered Victorian number 103981. I am seeking to discover the original registered owner and where and when it was first registered. The names and addresses of any subsequent owners up to & including the last registered owner.
Having been in storage /off the road for so long this car is of special historical interest and this information is sought in order to piece together the cars early history. 

The people at the Association of Motoring Clubs who hold some of the early records suggested that they were prevented (FoI) from giving me any of this information and that I should contact your department.
I am willing to pay any necessary search fee required if you are able to supply this additional information. I am a Hon Life Member of the Vintage Sports Car Club & a Internationally recognised motoring writer and historian. 


Thanking you 

Bernard (Bernie) Jacobson
 (03) 9842 5808.

 

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2018.0542a.pdf



Getting information from Australian Government Department archives is a little like finding photographs of the interior trim in a 1920 Light Six tourer.

The "Care & Operation Hand-book shows what the door trim looks like. So I guess that gives me a starting point.



Thank you both.

These photographs show me exactly what I needed to know. While obviously original whay I had trouble understanding was the length of the "Flaps" over the door pockets even in the earlier car, similar to my 1920) to lift the flaps over the front door pockets requires the door to be opened first. This seems to be more pronounced in the later cars with even longer flaps. The photographs also confirm that the pocket is off centre to accomodate the door handle.

The centre cross rail in the frame of my doors would governs the depth of the pocket.  As with the rest of the car the original timber in the door frames is in excellent condition. It is just a pity the the rats living in the car during its long stay in a "hen-house" took such a liking to the original interior trim in the car. The other thing I was unsure about was it there was a section of carpet at the bottom of the doors as on the rear of the front seat.

The final photograph shows the interior trim details of the 1922 Packard Single Six I restored some years ago with the carpet extended across the bottoms of the door and the door pocket detail.

Prior to my ownership the Packard had spent a number of years in a storage shed on the Melbourne docks subject of a dispute with the Australian Customs Service.






Possibly out of place here, these are before and after photographs of the Packard.





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